Transcript
of the QSI Conference Call
Moderator: Louis Silverman
May 23, 2001
12:00 pm EST
Operator:
Good afternoon.� My name is Amy and I will be your conference
facilitator today.� At this time, I would like to welcome everyone
to the Quality Systems Fourth Quarter Fiscal Year 2001 Earnings
conference call.� All lines have been placed on mute to prevent
any background noise.� After the speakers� remarks, there will
be a question and answer period.
If
you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press
the number one on your telephone keypad and questions will be
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Thank
you.� Mr. Silverman, you may begin your conference.
Louis
Silverman: Thank you, Amy.� I�d like to welcome everyone to
Quality Systems� Fiscal 2001 Fourth Quarter and Year-End conference
call.� Joining me on today�s call are Greg Flynn, who�s the Executive
Vice President and General Manager of our QSI Division, which
for any newcomers to our conference call, includes our Dental
business, EDI business and niche Medical business.
Paul
Holt, our CFO, is also here with me, and Pat Cline, President
of our MicroMed Division, which develops and markets our NextGen
product line joins us from Horsham, Pennsylvania.
Before
we begin, let me point out that comments made on this call may
include statements that are forward-looking within the meaning
of the Securities Laws including statements related to anticipated
industry trends, the company�s plans and strategies that projected
operating results.� Actual results may differ materially from
our expectations and projections and you should refer to our SEC
Form 10-K and 10-Q for discussions of the risk factors that could
impact our actual performance.
Overall,
we�re extremely pleased with the company�s performance in the
quarter.� To give you a brief overview of some of the key data
points, the company generated a record $10.7 million in Q4 revenue,
which was a 22% increase over the year prior.�The Q4 performance
combined with our strong Q3 - performance pushed us to the $40
million mark in revenue for the fiscal year which is a first for
the company.
Our
Q4 performance was driven by another record-setting quarter at
MicroMed. At $6.3 million for the quarter, the Division was up
57% versus the year prior.� The QSI Division was significantly
stronger than in our third quarter, generating about $4.4 million
in revenue.
Incorporated
within our divisional numbers and certainly contributing to the
company�s overall growth was our EDI business segment, which increased
30% year over year.� The $1.4 million in revenues that we generated
in our EDI connectivity segment was also a record for the company.
Net
income was a record $1.17 million and that was more than double
the net income generated in the same quarter prior year.� On an
earnings per share basis, the 19 cents we earned in the quarter
is again more than double the 9 cents earned in year prior and
up from the 16 cents earned in the prior quarter.
For
the year, net income was up 40% from the prior year and earnings
per share increased 42.5% from 40 cents year prior to 57 cents
this year.
On
the cash flow and collections front, you�ll note that cash was
up to about $18.7 million at quarter end and DSOs decreased from
about 141 days to 114 days in the quarter.
Revenue
per employee, which is the number we have talked about on past
calls, stayed pretty much where it has been in the last couple
of quarters at $197,000 per employee annualized.� Paul Holt will
give you a bit more texture on the financial data in a couple
of minutes.
Notable
non-financial developments occurring since our last call include
MicroMed�s successful participation in two of our industry key
trade shows.� At the HIMSS conference which occurred in New Orleans
in February, we introduced a pre-beta version of our NextGen PDA
which is our handheld product and certainly the response at the
HIMSS show has been extremely positive.
Our
NextGen EMR software was two for two in first places both earned
at the recent TEPR show in Boston.� So again, we feel we had a
very strong showing for our NextGen software suite.� That�s the
two key industry shows that�s part of our industry segment.
New
releases of our NextGen EPM and NextGen EMR product suites are
proceeding on plan and Pat will give you a little more texture
on that later on in the call as well.
On
the QSI side of our business, a pre-beta release of Phase I of
our Sequoia project which is our redesign and rewrite of our Flagship
software program was test marketed to User Group meeting attendees
and was extremely well received.� The project � Phase one of the
project is now set for staged releases to our clients through
the summer and early fall.
Our
CPS product is moving through the initial stages of reformulation
that we discussed on earlier calls.� And though it�s extremely
early to talk about trends, we did close a couple of new sales
during the quarter and we experienced a measure of increased interest
in that product from the marketplace.� People have continued working
through our reformulation project but the early returns, and they
are early, has been reasonably positive.
We
announced two partnerships in the quarter - two new partnerships.
MicroMed entered a joint marketing agreement with Zeiss Humphrey,
who�s arguably the world�s leading ophthalmology equipment vendor.
They are increasingly well positioned to increase our reach into
this segment; it�s a segment that we�ve been successful in the
past.� And we�re hopeful that the Zeiss Humphrey affiliation will
enable us to increase our success in that segment.
As
a company, QSI was accepted into The Leapfrog Group.� The Leapfrog
Group is a group of largely Fortune 500 healthcare �thought leaders�
who are working to advance the state of healthcare in the US and
we�re optimistic that our expertise in the areas of EMR and EDI
will enable us to contribute significantly to this new effort.
We�ve
expanded our MicroMed sales staff during the latter part of the
March quarter and early part of the June quarter to feed future
growth consistent with some of your plans that we have discussed
on prior calls.
We�ve
also increased staffing in our implementation group on the MicroMed
side to allow us to continue to provide good service for our increase
in client base and get clients implemented that have bought our
software.
On
HIPAA and other legislation - as we discussed on our last call,
we continue to agree that with the general consensus, the HIPAA
regulations and the medical errors legislation that is on the
docket in multiple states should eventually help companies in
our business.
Our
software is currently compliant with many of the known standards
now � facilitates compliance would be a better way to talk about
it.� And we certainly continue to add some compliance items into
our development queue.�� As a company, we absolutely remain committed
to staying ahead of any and all mandated guidelines.
That
concludes my opening remarks.� At this time, I would like to turn
things over to Paul Holt for additional comments on our financial
statements.
Paul
Holt: Hello everybody.� What a great way to finish off the
year with another record quarter.� This past fiscal year has been
a really exciting one for Quality Systems, growing revenues by
over 10%, ending at just under $40 million and growing profits
by over 40% at approximately $3.5 million or 57 cents a share.
During
the past year, we worked to reduce expenses in the Dental Division
and controlled the growth of expenses in our MicroMed Division,
resulting in improved profit margins in SG&A expenses as a
percentage of revenue.
Our
gross profit margins for the year improved to 56.7% compared to
54.9% last year.� SG&A expenses also declined to 34% of revenue
this year compared to 34.8% last year.
Ending
the year with $18.7 million in cash, that�s an increase of $2.6
million over the prior year.� This is also - this is impressive
given the fact that during the year, we bought back 235,900 of
our shares at a cost of approximately $1.9 million.
I�m
excited about our continued momentum in our growing revenues and
earnings.� We posted our fifth straight increase in earnings this
quarter and our fourth straight increase in revenues this quarter.
Our
growth in revenue this quarter was driven primarily through continued
strong growth in software sales by the MicroMed Division, resulting
also in a higher gross margin this quarter.
System
sales for the March quarter were approximately $5.5 million, an
increase of 6% compared to the prior quarter and 36% compared
to the year ago quarter.
The
MicroMed Division is continuing to operate at a substantially
more profitable pace compared to last year.� MicroMed�s system
sales rose to $4.7 million in the fourth quarter. This is a 77%
increase compared to the prior year quarter.� Operating income
of the MicroMed Division totaled $1,094,000, an increase of 166%
compared to the prior year operating income of $412,000.
The
QSI Division reported revenue of $4.4 million, an increase of
8% from the prior quarter, but a decrease of� 7% compared to the
prior year quarter. The QSI Division has been able to increase
its contribution to profits by controlling and reducing expenses.
Operating income for the fourth quarter in the QSI Division was
at $1,003,000, an increase of 32% for both prior quarter and the
year ago quarter.
Gross
profit margins in the March quarter came in at 58.5% compared
to 56.8% in the prior quarter.� Now as I�ve stated in the past,
our gross profit margins are significantly influenced by the level
of hardware revenue included in our system sales and as a result,
may fluctuate from quarter to quarter.� I don�t want� to create
expectations that the gross profit margins in this quarter represent
a trend.� We expect to continue to operate within our normal band,
which is between 54% and 56%.
As
a percentage of revenue, SG&A expense declined slightly in
the quarter to 33.0% compared to 33.4% in the prior quarter.�While
we reduced the SG&A expenses in the QSI Division, we incurred
an increase in SG&A expenses in the MicroMed Division with
the end result being relatively flat overall.
Now
I�m going to change gears here and talk about a couple of key
items on our balance sheet.� As Lou has already mentioned, we�re
very proud of our increase in our cash position.� During the quarter,
we generated approximately $3.2 million in cash from operations
and invested approximately $350,000 in capitalized software and
equipment.
As
Lou has already mentioned, the emphasis our company has placed
on collections has yielded results.� We�re happy to report our
DSOs outstanding improved during the quarter, dropping from 141
days last quarter to 114 days in the March quarter.�We intend
to continue to emphasize on improving in this area.
An
update on the company�s stock buyback program - during the March
quarter, we purchased 3500 shares of our stock at approximately
$28,000.� I want to thank you all for being on the call and your
interest in our company.
I�m
going to now turn things over to Greg Flynn, our Executive Vice
President and General Manager of our QSI Dental Division to provide
you with an update.
Greg
Flynn: Thank you, Paul.� Good day at everyone on the call.
As mentioned, QSI revenues for the quarter were slightly more
than $4.4 million.� While this revenue performance is less than
we would have liked to have seen, it does represent an approximate
8% growth over the prior Q3 2001 quarter.� And also was obtained
during a time period when the dental consolidators, a primary
QSI target market, remained challenged from a growth perspective.
The
quarter once again saw growth in our EDI businesses with� $1.418
million in revenues, up approximately 5% over Q3 2001 and approximately
30% versus Q4 of 2000.
During
the quarter, we initiated direct deposit, a lock box and automated
patient remittance posting service at our first two live clients.
Initial reaction to the service has been extremely positive.
We also began to expand the deployment of our patient eligibility
services.
In
the current quarter, we�re looking to further expand the number
of payers participating in our EDI eligibility offering as well
as to begin development of this software for our Medical Legacy
clients and potentially then in the future, to offer a similar
service for our MicroMed clients.� We have also installed our
first client user of electronic attachments with training to be
conducted with this client in the coming weeks.
Another
highlight of the quarter was the expansion of CPS deployment at
two of our existing clients.� As Lou said, while too early to
signify a trend, we are seeing at this time, an increase interest
in CPS.� Additionally, we have begun to experiment with different
packaging of the products, for example, software-only offerings.
The
quarter also saw successfully beta-test new reporting software
for our dental clients that�s part of our Sequoia project.� This
product, which we call the DataMiner, will be offered to our full
dental client base.� In addition, a sophisticated reporting package
utilizing a third-party metrics tool is anticipated to be available
for beta offering in the coming quarters.� Also, we are scheduled
to develop and offer similar tools to our medical legacy clients.
As
I have done on recent calls, I would now like to comment briefly
on the progress of our expense initiatives at the QSI Division.
Once again, we saw a decrease in our expenses.� Expenses for the
quarter were $2.186 million versus $2.356 million in the prior
quarter and $2.864 million in Q4 of 2000.
We
are proud that we have been able to aggressively address our expense
side.� We�re also ambitiously looking to introduce new products
to our EDI suite, to our existing practice management clients
and to those new clients on the horizon.
At
this time, I would like to turn the call over to Pat Cline, President
of our MicroMed Division and again Pat, congratulations on another
great quarter.
Pat
Cline: Thanks, Greg.� Hi, everyone.� I�m very proud of MicroMed�s
performance during the last quarter and actually during the year.
We set records each and every quarter; we set records for the
year, growing revenue over 30% and profit over 50% in the MicroMed
Division.
The
March quarter we executed 20 new contracts; that was also a record.
One of the contracts was with Hoag Hospital in Newport Beach,
California.� I mention that because Hoag is a QSI customer and
that deal was referred to us by QSI.
We
also received another order from the Federal Government and we
closed a number of deals within ophthalmology practices; Lou mentioned
our relationship with Zeiss Humphrey.� We�re excited about the
relationship and the opportunity to work with Zeiss.� We think
it�s going to help us continue our success selling into ophthalmology
practices.� At this point, we have, what I�d refer to as the who�s
who of top ophthalmology practices in the country on our system.
Lou
also mentioned the TEPR awards.� The MicroMed Division entered
just two categories on the EMR side, which we felt were the most
important categories and frankly, we were proud that we made the
finals in both categories and obviously even more proud when we
won first honors in both EMR categories that we entered.
We�ve
recently grown the sales force as Lou mentioned.� We�ve grown
it by 30%, including one regional sales manager and two new sales
reps. And as you know, or most of you know probably, it does take
a number of months to get new sales people up-to-speed although
we�re encouraged that one of the new sales reps has already signed
a contract in the current quarter.
We
completed the NextGen EPM or Enterprise Practice Management Version
2.6 and the EMR Version 3.6 and we have other product releases
scheduled for this fall.� Also on the product, we�re making good
progress on the NextGen PDA product.
We
were happy with the reception that we received at HIMSS and at
TEPR on the PDA product.� That�s a product that, as you may remember,
will help physicians when they�re out at the hospital, their home,
or nursing home with medical records, prescriptions, orders, appointments,
charge capture, those sorts of things.
And
our pipeline stands at about $19 million.� That�s down a little
bit but it�s - we�re encouraged by the number of leads that we
got at HIMSS and we got at TEPR and we think we�re going to be
filling that out nicely.
And
before I close and go to questions, because a lot of our employees
and managers listen to this call or dial in to replays of this
call, I�d like to tell MicroMed�s employees and managers who continue
to work so hard to make the company successful, thank you very
much and I really appreciate it.� Back to you, Lou.
Louis
Silverman: Great.� Operator, we�re ready for questions.
Operator:
If you would like to ask a question at this time, press the number
one on your telephone keypad.
Your
first question comes from Mike Crawford.
Mike
Crawford: Hi, guys.� Good morning.� A couple of product-related
questions; one on the Clinical Product Suite.� I think Greg mentioned
two clients; if you can�t name them specifically, can you talk
about what kind of practices or companies these are that are purchasing
the product?
Greg
Flynn: One of the large multi-location groups on the East
Coast don�t have their clearance to specifically discuss numbers
but they�re employing all aspects of the product from client education
to x-rays, etc., etc., the full breadth of the product.� Another
is a smaller group in Texas.
Mike
Crawford: Okay.�Thanks, Greg.� And then Pat, on the PDA, I
know the pre-beta versions are working nice and you�re talking
about progress.� When do you think we�re going to get a beta version
on actual, you know, full-fledged product?
Greg
Flynn: We�re going to go to beta next month.� We�re hoping
earlier than later.� And while we have pretty good visibility
on when we put the thing out into the field, when we go to general
release is going to depend on how the thing does in its initial
wave and the comments that come back with respect to usability
and features and how to sort of evolve it to its Version 2.� And
as well as if we find any bugs or kinks in the thing will really
dictate the actual general release date.
Mike
Crawford: Okay.�And then - now this one, I�m not sure if it�s
for Paul or Lou, but deferred revenues were down slightly.�Is
that a trend or is there any significance to that?
Paul
Holt: I wouldn�t put a whole lot of significance to that really.
What that says is that as a result of adding a couple of implementation
people, we�ve done a little bit better job of working through
some of the deferred service hours that we had on the books.
Mike
Crawford: Okay.�So it�s not going to have much of a relation
to maintenance revenue projections going forward?
Paul
Holt: No.� I wouldn�t imply that at all.
Mike
Crawford: Okay.�And then I guess the final question I�m going
to end now is for Lou, you know, what�s your outlook for next
year?� I mean we�re sitting here in the first quarter of �02.
Are you looking for any general trends in terms of growth or expectations?
Louis
Silverman: Mike, generally we are feeling very good about
the feedback we�ve gotten from our products on the MicroMed side,
the TEPR awards, the feedback we�ve gotten from the different
conventions that we�ve attended,� on our NextGen PDA product,
our affiliation with Zeiss Humphrey, our pipeline.� All of those
trends are looking very positive on the MicroMed side.
On
the QSI side, we continue to be impacted by the difficulties that
the general consolidator segment is facing.� We are working through
those, however, by emphasizing new product developments in our
EDI product area as well as continuing to work aggressively on
reformulating the CPS product and seeing where that will take
us.
Overall,
our outlook for the future is very positive.� We�re feeling, again,
increasingly good about the products that we have, the business
fundamentals that we�re seeing as a company.� And again, it�s
a very positive environment that we have company-widea very
positive feeling and outlook on the future that we have company-wide.
Mike
Crawford: I mean what - so would you be happy to see growth
in double-digits next year?� Or would you just be happy to see
growth equal - I mean revenues come in at the $40 million that
you did this past year?
Louis
Silverman: I think we would all be very disappointed if we
did not experience revenue growth and I think double-digits certainly
is a good target.� I�m short of giving guidance on what exact
percentage I�d like to see in the future or what I predict in
the future.
But
certainly, given that we had 10% growth overall as a company year
over year and did that with continued strength in our MicroMed
Division and with some challenges in our QSI Division suggests
to me that double-digit growth on into the future is certainly
something that we would expect to see.
Mike
Crawford: Okay.�Thank you.
Louis
Silverman: Thanks, Mike.
Operator:
Your next question comes from Neal Bradsher.
Neal
Bradsher: Yeah.�Congratulations on the quarter, guys.
Unknown:
Thanks, Neal.
Neal
Bradsher: Good numbers - before I ask my questions I just
want to mention that I�m calling in on a payphone from my lunch
break during jury duty.� So I haven�t heard everything you�ve
said and I may get interrupted at any time.
My
first question is really following-up on Crawford�s question regarding
guidance.� I take it that the company is still under restrictions
from the Board with respect to guidance.� And I�m curious as to
whether there is any indication when that may end?
Louis
Silverman: I think we�ve decided as a company that we will
not be giving out specific guidance for the foreseeable future.
I can�t tell you that it�s on the docket for reconsideration at
any specific point into the future.� We�re continuing to give
very general guidance in terms of our sales pipelines.� You can
see our deferred revenue numbers.� Many of the rest of our numbers
continue to track in a fairly narrow and predictable band.
But
yes, you�re right, we are not at a place where we have decided
that we�re� going to be beginning a process of giving out specific
guidance at this point in time.
Neal
Bradsher: Okay.�That�s at this point and no indication as
to when that might start or if it will start?
Louis
Silverman: I don�t - that is correct.� And I don�t want to
give the impression that that�s likely to change in the foreseeable
future.
Neal
Bradsher: Okay.�Has your visibility, Lou, improved to a point
where you feel you could provide guidance if you were able to
that would be as accurate as the average of other companies that
provide guidance?�Or is it still the case that the nature of your
business, the lumpiness and so forth, is such that it would be
very difficult to provide accurate guidance anyway?
Louis
Silverman: That�s the challenge, Neal, is that we continue
to be at a place where one deal here or there per quarter makes
a very significant difference in our results which is also the
case even for a rolling 12-month period.� A couple of deals here
or there do make a very large difference for us.
We
continue to work extremely hard to close as many deals as we can
each quarter.� But feel that and experience that our ability to
predict with extreme precision, which deals come in when is limited.
And so it�s really, in my opinion, largely a function of size
that we are very dependent on each incremental deal to impact
our numbers one way or another.� That�s our challenge.
Neal
Bradsher: Okay.�And then you mentioned things like pipeline
and deferred revenue and picking up on that, you kind of mentioned
that pipeline was down a little bit.� In an earlier question,
you responded on the issue of deferred revenues being down a little
bit.� I take it from that then that - well, you�re obviously limited
in guidance - comments that, you know, seasonality does still
play a significant role and we should keep that in mind.
Louis
Silverman: I think that we have - on seasonality, we were
- we�ve been talking about this as a management team.� And we
have I�d say some intersecting trend lines.� We have a lot of
very good momentum coming from our showings at TEPR and HIMSS,
a lot of very good qualified leads that we�re working through
there to get them into the pipeline.
It
is true that historically the June quarter has been relatively
softer for the company.� Where those trend lines intersect and
whether - and what they mean we�ll be able to look back and tell
you.� But it�s very hard to predict right now.� We feel like we
have some countermanding trends that make it very difficult to
have a sense of exactly where we�re going to end up in the quarter.
Neal
Bradsher: Okay.�Thank you.� Let me just ask a couple of other
questions and then I�ll jump off.� One is your DSO came down a
very large amount sequentially; I think that was from 141 to 114.
And that�s despite the rise in revenues, which mathematically
makes that difficult.� Can you just talk about what you�ve been
doing on the collection side and whether there was anything sort
of one-time that caused that sharp a decline?
Louis
Silverman: Let me take your questions in reverse order.� In
terms of any one-timers, I think it�s fair to say that the way
collection came in in the March quarter and relatedly in the December
quarter, we have some efforts that we initiated during the December
quarter that didn�t quite come in in the December quarter.� And
thereby, artificially inflating our DSO number for the December
quarter.� And in some ways, inflating the amount of progress we
made in the March quarter.
Overall,
we are where we are; we�ve made tremendous progress.� I think
that we made more progress in the December quarter than we showed
and then made the rest of the progress to get us down to 114 in
the March quarter, if that helps at all.� So that�s - if there
is a one-timer, it�s sort of a timing issue on some payments that
came in early in the March quarter.
In
terms of on a going-forward basis what we are doing to continue
to keep our diligence and attention on the AR, we have expanded
our collection staff modestly.� We have put some better management
processes in place.� And we are just doing the blocking and tackling
that is required to collect money.� It�s as simple as that.� It�s
easy to say; perhaps a little less easy to do but it is basic
blocking and tackling.
Neal
Bradsher: Have you needed to change terms or anything like
that or was it just purely making sure you make the calls?
Louis
Silverman: I think that we have increased the visibility of
our AR and our AR efforts company-wide.� So I think there�s a
lot of attention being paid to - on the sales side - to making
sure that the terms that we agreed to are appropriate; the operations
staff to make sure that we are delivering and implementing on
a timely basis and the collection staff being diligent in following-up
on any obligations that our customers have to us.
Neal
Bradsher: Do you have a target zone for DSO and a rough time
period to achieve that?
Louis
Silverman: We have an informal target zone that�s not way
far off of where we are right now.� I think that if we�re in -
just looking at some of our peers and their ranges go all over
the place and looking at what the market looks like, I think somewhere
in the 110-day range is probably a reasonable near-term target.
As
Paul referenced in his comments, I think this number is going
to bounce around a little bit; that is to say our DSO numbers
are going to bounce around a little bit.� So I think that we�re
shooting for 110 at least an interim next goal, whether we get
there next quarter or the quarter after that is - time will tell.
Neal
Bradsher: Okay.�Thank you for letting me ask so many questions.
Again, I�m on a payphone and jury duty.� Let me just ask one more
- what was the highest price at which you bought back stock at
any point during the buyback?
Paul
Holt: Well, we bought some shares early this quarter and about
the - let me see - one minute, I want to double check before I
give it out to you.
Neal
Bradsher: When you say early in this quarter, do you mean
early in the March quarter or early in the current quarter?
Paul
Holt: Early in the March quarter.
Louis
Silverman: Early in March quarter.� Paul�s just going through
his schedule now.
Neal
Bradsher: It sounds like it�s around eight bucks.
Paul
Holt: Yeah.� That�s correct.
Neal
Bradsher: So somewhere in the eight range?
Paul
Holt: Uh-huh.
Neal
Bradsher: And that�s the highest you�ve done.
Paul
Holt: Yeah.
Neal
Bradsher: Okay.�Thank you.
Louis
Silverman: Thanks, Neal.
Neal
Bradsher: Congratulations on the quarter.
Louis
Silverman: Thank you.
Operator:
Your next question comes from Tom Kickus.
Tom
Kickus: Hi.� Congratulations on the quarter.� Just a follow-up
on sort of a general sort of question, you know, you�ve developed
some momentum over the last few quarters that�s very commendable
and it�s the most momentum, quite frankly, I have seen in the
five years that I�ve been following the company.
But
can you discuss a little bit what the corporate strategy is at
this point?� I mean the shares have moved up slightly; you�ve
not paid more than eight roughly for share buybacks.� Do you want
to grow it organically?� Do you hope to do acquisitions?� Can
you talk really sort of how you�re approaching the company at
this point in time?
Louis
Silverman: I would say that the lion�s share of our focus
is on organic growth.� And with a little more texture to that,
I think that we are becoming fairly effective in that moving resources
into the MicroMed Division where there is growth and even within
that Division to fund not as much as we�d like to be sure, but
to fund what we can afford to support the places where we do have
momentum - some momentum building and to be a little more efficient
let�s say in the QSI Division that has not experienced the growth
that we�d like.
So
first - to answer your first question is the lion�s share of our
focus is on organic growth.� In terms of acquisitions, our answer
is the same as it has been in prior calls which is we continue
to be on the dance card for investment bankers that have deals
that they are shopping.� It is not by any stretch of the imagination
an extremely high priority for the company or for our Board to
be acquisitive but certainly we owe it to our shareholders and
owe it to ourselves to understand what�s out there.
And
if something came up that was particularly appealing, to work
collaboratively with our Board to decide whether or not to pursue
it and if so, if we were to choose to pursue it, how aggressively?
Tom
Kickus: Is it fair to say that at the moment, the share buyback
is on hold or is that sort of to be determined on a daily basis
almost?
Louis
Silverman: As we mentioned on prior calls, the share buyback
is controlled entirely at the Board level.� And so it would be
difficult for the management of QSI to speculate on the status
of the stock buybacks.
Tom
Kickus: Can you talk a little bit about the reconfiguring
of the clinical dental product and whether in fact it is a viable
offering?
Greg
Flynn: We are in the process in particular of looking at a
different packaging of the product on a software only mode.� And
to be very frank with you, we are determining how viable that
type of offering will be.� We are encouraged, again, I�m not trying
to cite a trend here, by the increased interest we are seeing.
Also
something I would add and it�s all - it is early on.� We are looking
at some joint marketing of the product within the MicroMed Enterprise
clients.
Tom
Kickus: You�ve been sort of thinking about this for six months
now.� I mean how much longer are you going to sort of evaluate
it?
Louis
Silverman: We had put a timetable on this to be through our
evaluation period in - by the end of June and I�m confident that
we will be - we�ll have our decisions made.� And have a direction
- a specific direction at that time.� We�re making I think good
progress; we�re on track.� And if we promise - or I promise a
late June decision date and a strategy date, and again, I�m confident
that we will make that date.
Tom
Kickus: Can you say - did you generate any sales at all from
that product in, you know, your last fiscal year or this past
fiscal year?
Greg
Flynn: Yes.� And certainly we generated some last quarter.
Tom
Kickus: Can you share what they were?
Greg
Flynn: I don�t have authorization from the clients that we
sold to to discuss actual dollar figures.� It was in the�
Tom
Kickus: But can you just give us a rough year figure of total
sales?
Greg
Flynn: Can I return to that question?�I�m going to have to
research that.�I know the quarter; I don�t have the year.
Tom
Kickus: That�s fine.� Thank you.
Louis
Silverman: Thanks, Tom.
Tom
Kickus: Yep.
Operator:
Your next question comes from Andrew Shapiro.
Andrew
Shapiro: Hi.� A few questions and I�ll back off and rejoin the
queue but a lot of stuff we had was asked.�Regarding the DSOs,
in the past calls, you had talked about the DSOs by division,
in medical versus dental being somewhat different with the Medical
Division, usually having longer DSOs.� As the Medical Division
is growing much faster right now than Dental, your sales mix is
shifting and would increase your DSOs.
Are
the improvements behind us?� Can the current level be improved
upon?� And when you say your target of 110 with the sales mix
shifting, does that basically imply that you have expected additional
improvements in there?
Louis
Silverman: I believe that over time, we can do better than
the 114 we�re at now and even the 110 that I cited.� I continue
to feel that 110 is an appropriate near-term goal in the next
several quarters.� Given that - if you say, gee, 110 is an appropriate
near-term goal and we�re at 114 now, we have made a lot of progress
towards getting to that goal obviously.
As
Paul referenced and as I referenced, I don�t believe this is going
to be a straight-line kind of issue.� And I think that we may
have the number - we may very well have the number bounce around
a little bit between the quarters.
Andrew
Shapiro: Was that a correction assumption though that the
DSOs from the medical product area are decently higher than they
are on the dental side?
Louis
Silverman: That is absolutely the case.� Paul has the exact
DSOs by division.� Do you have them, Paul?
Paul
Holt: Yes.� Yeah, we�re at 142 days and in for MicroMed and
73 days for the Dental Division.
Andrew
Shapiro: So it�s basically double.� I mean it�s a substantial
difference.
Paul
Holt: But you�re talking about also - I mean there are reasons
for it.� You�re talking - MicroMed is selling a lot of new system
sales contracts.
Louis
Silverman: But your point is that if MicroMed is a growing
percentage of our business and it appears that the DSO - well
it is the fact that the DSO numbers are higher there.� As MicroMed
grows, the percentage of sales, what does that do to your DSO
number?� And your question is fair.
I
continue to feel like with continued diligence, continued work,
our appropriate near-term goal of 110 days; I think we can get
there.� I�m not going to promise it for next quarter or frankly
even the quarter after that.� But understand that I believe that
is a reachable target in the near-term and the next few quarters
and we�re going to be working very hard to get there.
Andrew
Shapiro: Great.�You gave some cash flow numbers out.�Can you
break out what the appreciation cap ex and capitalized software
numbers were so we can come up with an EBITDA number here?
Paul
Holt: Are you ready, Andy?
Andrew
Shapiro: Yeah.
Paul
Holt: Okay.� Capitalized software for the quarterQSI
34,000; MicroMed 208,000.� Fixed asset investmentssales
division, 6000, MicroMed, 95,000.� Moving over to the expense
side, amortization expense for the Dental Division122,000.
Amortization on the MicroMed side -- 338,000.� Depreciation expense
on the Dental Division64,000, and 140,000 for MicroMed.
Andrew
Shapiro: Okay.�So your EBITDA is higher than your EBIT quite
a bit.� And for the full year then, you�re doing about what, around
6 million or so EBITDA you did?
Paul
Holt: Approximately.
Andrew
Shapiro: Okay.� A question for Greg, you talked about some
dental cost cuts and where you�ve been.� Are you done on the cost
cutting side?� Or to what level do you think you can bring the
costs on the dental side down to?
Greg
Flynn: I think at this point in time, we�re reasonably done.
There are - we continue to look aggressively at that, but I think
we�re reasonably done.�We have reconfigured our offices here,
which is going to reduce our rent somewhat.� But along the headcount
line, I think this past quarter, at least as I anticipate in the
near future, pretty much put us there.
Andrew
Shapiro: And what was that expense level for that Division
then?
Greg
Flynn: Our expenses for the fourth quarter were $2.186 million.
Andrew
Shapiro: Okay.�And for the first quarter last year, do you
have that handy just to know if we still have a few more quarters
of year over year growth or I should say year over year improvements?
Greg
Flynn: The first quarter of 2001 was $2.735 million.
Andrew
Shapiro: So it�s a quarter or two more before anniversarying
it all and so there�s some margin improvement to be seen.
Greg
Flynn: I would conclude that.
Andrew
Shapiro: Okay.� I�ll back off.� I have a few more questions
so please come back to us if there�s no one else in the queue.
Operator:
There are no further questions.� Mr. Shapiro, you may proceed.
Andrew
Shapiro: Thank you.� Last quarter you spoke of a new governmental
customer at MicroMed and I think also possibly in a new - or regular
semi-large customer.� You spoke of both of those customers having
some possibly substantial downstream additional revenue opportunities.
Did either of those two customers come back this quarter and buy
more product?� Or in what quarter do you feel that your first
opportunity for some downstream sales should kick in?
Pat
Cline: This is Pat, Andy.� On the government side, it was
actually two contracts that we closed and that I had indicated
on the last call.� And yes, one of those government customers
did place an additional order with us in the March quarter.
And
the other large customer I was talking about, yes, we did book
some additional revenue from that customer during the March quarter.
And we still have a reasonable number of I think of follow-on
orders from a couple of our large customers and from our government
customers.
Andrew
Shapiro: Now do you need approval to get it into these particular
government customers?� Is that enabling you to move around and
get into additional government (RFP�s)?
Pat
Cline: We have some efforts going on in that direction, Andy.
I�ve had a couple of meetings with another government entity.
Obviously, I�m not in a position to promise additional government
entities or business with those entities.� But I�m optimistic.
Andrew
Shapiro: And last quarter, you couldn�t give out the names
of the large record customers and the new governmental customers.
Are you at liberty to now share those with us at all?
Pat
Cline: No.� Unfortunately, while I�d like to, same story.
We can�t talk.
Andrew
Shapiro: Then you have to�
Pat
Cline: We don�t have the authorization.� The government entities
that we�re dealing with have asked us not to promote the relationships
in a public forum and obviously we�re going to honor those requests.
Andrew
Shapiro: Right.� You talked about how the sales staff has
grown at MicroMed by 30%.� What sales staff number does that put
you at now?
Pat
Cline: I was talking about just the sales force - the entire
sales staff which would include sales - senior sales manager and
sales support people and a telesales person would throw these
numbers.� But just sales people feed on the street went from 10
to 13.
Andrew
Shapiro: Okay.� And I think last quarter you guys had on the
dental side it was now up to 6.� Is that number still the same?
Greg
Flynn: Yeah.� That�s not including myself and that�s including
individuals marketing both our existing clients as well as new
clients.
Andrew
Shapiro: Okay.� And I know it�s early, it�s only been a few
weeks.� But from your existing prospects, the ones that were in
the pipeline path, what kind of impact is the TEPR honors enabling
on your closure rate or in the process?� Is there anything noticeable?
Pat
Cline: Yes.� What�s noticeable isn�t yet the result but more
the interest level and some of the comments that we get and anecdotal
stuff.� We had a number of people come to our booth which I believe
was either the largest or one of the largest booths at TEPR and
not only congratulate us but tell us that things like - they were
looking at XYZ competitor and the awards - our winning the awards
really opened their eyes and they�re going to now take a serious
look at us.� Or in one case that I recall, take another look at
us.
So
we�re not seeing the results as far as the bottom line is concerned.
But if the question is, does winning the awards help?� It sure
does.
Andrew
Shapiro: Only a few more questions here.� Have the number
of paying clients on either the NextMD.com and/or the QSINet.com
grown in significance?� And what�s your expectations or goals
do you have here in the Internet sector and your Internet products?
Pat
Cline: On the NextMD side, I would say that the number of
customers has not grown substantially.� And as I�ve indicated
on prior calls, the near-term revenue generation from transaction-oriented
stuff or advertising or those types of things or prescription
fees, still not material.
However,
I think the NextMD features, which includes secured communication
between patients and physicians and appointment requests and confirmations
and registrations and bills on-line and those types of things,
are all features that help us compete in the marketplace and features
that in some cases have helped us to win sales.� And I think that�s
the most significant contribution to revenue.
Greg
Flynn: On the QSINet practice management side, we�ve not seen
a significant increase in the number of clients.� What I would
point out, however, that we have seen in increase and feeling
it even today in this quarter is in what we call patient connectivity
which is use of the Internet for patients to make appointments,
to verify their statements, to actually remit payments.
We
even have just rolling out live in the next two weeks a very sophisticated
e-mailing mechanism by the Internet so that patients can in a
secure fashion ask questions of their nurse practitioners through
QSI�s port if you will - portal.� And we are seeing an increase
in that, a lot of different types of developments currently under
way.� And much of that will be a transaction-based type of offering.
Andrew
Shapiro: In terms of - what other products on the dental side
or what is it that you were doing on the dental side to enable
the Dental Division to grow regardless of whether or not the consolidators
in a sense re-liquefy and start the growth?� In other words, what
are you doing and where do your products stand regarding, I guess,
products available to the smaller practice groups, if at all?
Are you targeting them or it doesn�t make economic sense at all?
Greg
Flynn: Our focus at this moment in time has not been on the
smaller end of the niche.� We have certainly focused our existing
clients and let me give you some of the developments that we�re
looking to roll out in the next couple of quarters there.
As
I mentioned, the DataMiner project which is a means to enhance
the reporting capabilities of our product.� We also have what
we call a business intelligence reporting mechanism, which is
the third-party metrics-type of tool that we�re looking to roll
out in the next two quarters.
We
also have for the longer-term and looking at enhancing the user
interface on our products.� So it will have more GUI looking feel
and be contemporized.
Intuitively,
I do feel though that the patient connectivity, and I can�t give
you a precise numbers with it, but I think the patient connectivity
that we�re offering out into the marketplace and really getting
a feel for and developing for now should enhance our ability to
penetrate larger segments of the market.
Our
focus again though has not been on the lower end of the market
at this time.� We�ve been looking at larger clients and prioritizing
existing clients.
Andrew
Shapiro: Pat, on the last call you said - you really couldn�t
talk about some of the features of the differentiation of your
PDA product from others.� You wanted to save that for your announcement
or rollout at HIMSS.� Now that that is out there and rolled out
at HIMSS, what sets your product apart and makes it superior to
and the needs it meets for physicians on this PDA product?
Pat
Cline: The most significant competitive edge I think that
we have, Andy, at this point is the fact that the solution is
far more complete, far more broad-based than what we�re seeing
out there.� In other words, you see many, what we call component
technologies.
One
company has PDA-based prescription generator of - and maybe they
have underdevelopment charge capture.� And another vendor has
electronic charge capture and is in the process of partnering
with somebody to downstream, put prescriptions in their - into
the PDA.� And another vendor has appointment synchronization with
a couple of practice management systems.
Whereas
because we�ve had this PDA product under development for better
than two years, we�ve got charge capture, lab orders, prescriptions,
full medical records, templates, voice dictation capture, appointment
schedules, synchronization, patient problem lists, allergy lists,
procedure lists, medication lists - all connected.
And
this is another significant advantage over the component technologies
to a full-blown comprehensive EMR suite that the practice can
have installed within their facility that then links them to many,
many external facilities to their practice management systems
as well as outside to labs and hospitals and those types of things.
So
- they�re really today is a night and day difference between our
PDA solution and what we�re seeing out in the market.
Andrew
Shapiro: And it sounds like that solution does not require
a MicroMed-based EPM.� It is compatible with most other systems?
Pat
Cline: Yes.� The PDA product links primarily to the electronic
medical record and the EMR product has interfaces to many practice
management systems.� However, the NextGen PDA product will play
much better with the MicroMed system as you might imagine.� There�s
a much tighter level of interfaces and integration between this
product and the - than our practice management system.
Andrew
Shapiro: Last question, I think it�s more mostly for Lou on
the corporate side.� The company is sitting here at $11 a share,
which is about a 66 market cap.� You�re sitting on $19 million
in cash; you�ve got no debt.� Your enterprise value of revenue
ratio here is amongst the lowest in the industry.� In other words,
we�re suffering here in the stock price although it�s done great.
It is still one of the lowest multiples in the industry.
I�ve
heard or have seen, I guess, that the company recently got picked
up for coverage from the Red Chip Review so it�s got another analyst
in here.� And I think you�re making some form of a presentation
in Los Angeles; I don�t think it was this week or next week.
But
with respect to that presentation or when is that and where else
or what are your additional - we�ll call it investor relations
or investor conference items that you already have scheduled or
are planning to do?
Louis
Silverman: Andy, we will be up in LA, I believe Pasadena actually
tomorrow.� We�re talking to investment people.� This is a program
put together by the Coffin Group who is our Investor Relations
firm.� The Coffin Group continues to be active and I continue
to be active as well in getting our story out to potentially interested
members of the financial community.
And
I�ve mentioned on prior calls that that continues to be an important
focus of a portion of my time and the last quarter and the going
forward quarters will be no different.� I don�t have any formal
additional speaking engagements or conferences that we have signed
up for.
But
I certainly do have trips scheduled to various large cities in
various parts of the country for a variety of business reasons.
And when I do go to those cities, we take that opportunity to
get the story out to various members of the investment community.
A
case in point, when I was at the TEPR conference in Boston, I
had the opportunity to meet with a couple of folks in Boston who
manage a couple of fairly significant mutual funds.� The meeting
went well.� I don�t know what else is going to happen with those
meetings.� But that�s a good example of taking advantage of travel
to different cities and taking advantage of some of the connections
that we have and also that Coffin has established to get the story
out.
Andrew
Shapiro: So with respect to possible people that may be on
this call and geographies that you�re traveling to, your upcoming
travel schedules where you may entertain meetings are coming up
in what cities?
Louis
Silverman: Currently, Coffin is working on setting up an itinerary
for me in New York in the early part of June.
Andrew
Shapiro: Okay.� Great.� Thank you very much.
Louis
Silverman: Thank you, Andy.
Operator:
You have a follow-up question from Tom Kickus.
Tom
Kickus: Yeah.� I was just curious if you�ve gotten that revenue
number on the clinical dental suite?
Greg
Flynn: Tom, I actually have our accounting department working
on that.� I don�t mean to sound as if I�m not trying to provide
you with a number.� It�s a little more complex than you might
think because the number of the add-on sales for CPS are actually
embedded amongst larger purchase orders and I will get you that
number.
Tom
Kickus: Okay.� Okay.� No problem.� Thank you.
Operator:
At this time, there are no further questions.
Louis
Silverman: Well, I would like to thank everybody on the call
for joining us.� I�d like to echo and expand past comments on
the great work done by the MicroMed employees to include all of
the QSI employees as a whole.� It�s been a very good year and
a very good quarter.� And we hope to always be able to say that.
Thanks again for joining us.
Operator:
Thank you for participating in today�s conference.� You may now
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